{"id":478,"date":"2008-02-25T17:50:38","date_gmt":"2008-02-25T22:50:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.blog.jimdoty.com\/?p=478"},"modified":"2018-03-30T10:53:38","modified_gmt":"2018-03-30T15:53:38","slug":"film-versus-digital","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.blog.jimdoty.com\/?p=478","title":{"rendered":"FILM VERSUS DIGITAL"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>With Tim Grey&#8217;s permission, I periodically reproduce one of his Q&#038;A emails.  If you aren&#8217;t already on his DDQ (Digital Darkroom Questions) email list and you are seriously involved in digital photography, I would suggest you go <a href=\"http:\/\/www.timgrey.com\/ddq\/\">here<\/a> and learn more.  Tim used to be George Lepp&#8217;s digital guru before going to work for Microsoft. George Lepp is a first class nature photographer and he writes for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.outdoorphotographer.com\/\">Outdoor Photographer<\/a>. I had an opportunity to participate in one of Mr. Lepp&#8217;s field seminars several years ago in Alaska.<br \/>\nThe question and answer that prompted this post involves the ongoing &#8220;film versus digital&#8221; debate.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>***   ***   ***<\/p>\n<p>From Tim Grey&#8217;s February 25, 2008 DDQ email:<\/p>\n<p><strong><font face=\"Arial\">&#8220;Do you think digital photography is  nearing film quality? Another photo guru says that it would take a 25 megapixel  camera to simulate mere 35mm film let alone medium-format film. Are we that far  away? (My mother, well beyond 80 in age, just remembers photos from film being  so much more vibrant and sharp and real. Well, me too.)&#8221;<\/font><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\">==========<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\">&#8220;Why do I feel like I&#8217;m walking into a controversy with  this one?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\">There are, in my mind, two issues to consider here, one  quantitative and one qualitative. The quantitative issue is that of how much  information is contained in the image. From this perspective, I believe digital  capture has exceeded film by most measures. The top digital cameras have  actually gotten to the point that they are able to resolve more detail than the  lens can provide. In other words, the limiting factor in terms of detail is now  the lens, not the imaging sensor. The amount of information captured in a  digital capture of about 20 megapixels (for a digital SLR) approximately equates  to the maximum amount of information generally believed to be available in the  top 35mm films. The specific details could be debated here, considering the  results would vary based on the particular film, lens, and digital SLR used for  testing purposes, but the bottom line is that we have gotten to the point that  digital has matched or exceeded the amount of information you are able to  capture in a single image compared to film. I think we&#8217;ve reached our  destination when looking at top-end cameras, and this will continue to improve.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\">Of course, that doesn&#8217;t address the qualitative issue.  Your comments here remind me of my experience years ago when I was working with  <span style=\"border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; cursor: pointer; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial\" class=\"yshortcuts\" id=\"lw_1203978946_4\">professional nature photographer George<\/span> Lepp (<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.geolepp.com\/\"><span class=\"yshortcuts\" id=\"lw_1203978946_5\">www.geolepp.com<\/span><\/a>).  I had heard so many photographers wax poetic about Kodachrome film, but had  never photographed with it so I didn&#8217;t have any perspective on the film. But I  had the impression that it was an incredible film and that the latest films  didn&#8217;t stack up to this old favorite. However, George had a huge slide  collection that went back many years, and included a wide variety of films. At  the time George was shooting mostly with Kodak E100VS film, and I had grown  accustomed to that look when sorting his slides. At times projects would call  for pulling some older images, and those would often be Kodachrome. While the  images were sharp and technically of the highest quality, there was an obvious  difference in terms of the overall quality, which was a reflection of the film  itself. It was a top film for its day, but the latest films were significantly  better. What I&#8217;m getting at here is the perception that the older films were  better than the newer films. This is something I put into the &#8220;good old days&#8221;  category, which sums up the notion that things were always better &#8220;in the good  old days&#8221;. It is often a matter of selective (or even romanticized) memories  rather than reality.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\">So, I&#8217;d suggest if you really think digital isn&#8217;t as good  as film captures, you might want to pull out some of those old film images and  make a direct comparison. You might be surprised at what you discover. Just the  simple fact that digital captures don&#8217;t have film grain makes a huge difference.  That isn&#8217;t to say we could automatically assume digital is better than film.  This is a qualitative consideration we&#8217;re looking at now, after all. The simple  fact is that some photographers prefer the look of film. I don&#8217;t happen to be  one of them (so I&#8217;m a bit biased, to be sure), but there are many of them out  there. In fact, I continue to be a bit surprised by how many photographers  continue to shoot film (and I even shot some film not too long ago, and you can  read about that on my <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timgrey.com\/blog\/?p=19\"><span style=\"background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial\" class=\"yshortcuts\" id=\"lw_1203978946_6\">blog<\/span><\/a>).<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\">In the final analysis, I think it is fair to say that  digital capture (at least in the top-of-the-line digital SLRs) has exceeded the  quality of film. However, it doesn&#8217;t perfectly match the look of film, so some  photographers are going to still prefer to shoot with film rather than digital.  That&#8217;s just an increasingly small number of photographers.&#8221;<\/font><\/p>\n<p>***   ***   ***<\/p>\n<p>You can learn more about Tim Grey at <font face=\"Arial\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timgrey.com\/\"><span style=\"background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial\" class=\"yshortcuts\" id=\"lw_1203978946_0\">www.timgrey.com<\/span><\/a>.<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>With Tim Grey&#8217;s permission, I periodically reproduce one of his Q&#038;A emails. If you aren&#8217;t already on his DDQ (Digital Darkroom Questions) email list and you are seriously involved in digital photography, I would suggest you go here and learn &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.blog.jimdoty.com\/?p=478\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-478","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blog.jimdoty.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/478","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blog.jimdoty.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blog.jimdoty.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blog.jimdoty.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blog.jimdoty.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=478"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.blog.jimdoty.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/478\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":19823,"href":"https:\/\/www.blog.jimdoty.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/478\/revisions\/19823"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blog.jimdoty.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=478"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blog.jimdoty.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=478"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blog.jimdoty.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=478"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}